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Is the correct expression 'plain sailing' or should it be 'plane sailing'. I ask as a fully certified CANOEist.

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Is it a sea-plane? But you do have a point;sci.military.naval group thread

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Plain sailing wins the google-fight 31.6k to 5.4k. Not the 10:1 ratio that is convincing, but. OTOH, a casual glance suggests that they may be two different things.

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Faldage I got 41.3 to 5.36 did you do a typo? I was surprised when this "plain" term didn't pop right out of several marine glossaries, I think you are right about two different things, withe the...

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I just ran another check and got 31.5 to 5.39. YMMV.

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OED2 considers "plane sailing" the original and "plain sailing" a popular variant, in that the original sense was "In Navigation, The art of determining a ship's place on the theory that she is moving...

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OK I'll come clean. The straight CANOE answer is that PLANE sailing is that carried out by reference to a chart which can be treated as a plane and not as part of a sphere. The navigational tequniques...

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Excellent prodnose, I think the chart which works is the common Mercator projection. You will be my nominee for Prexy of CANOE, if we ever have an election, having demonstrated superior knowledge plus...

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Except that plane and Mercator sailing may be two different things...BK-0141) PRACTICAL NAVIGATION FOR SECOND MATES. Jones, T. G. & Frost, A. 5th ed. 1985. ISBN 0-85174-397-8. Explanatory matter...

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As an aside, in sailing (motor or sail), at certain (fairly high) speeds the boat rises partially out of the water and 'planes.' Strictly, this is 'hydroplaning,' but is commonly called 'planing.' The...

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I will now cower below the parapets.I like him.

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Results of two google fights:Number of results on Google for the keywords "plain sailing" and "plane sailing": "plain sailing"( 41 800 results) versus "plane sailing"( 5 180 results) The winner is:...

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The prairie schooner is the way to go.

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I'm not convinced that allowing that nice mister google to vote on the basis of which party is most ill-informed is the best way to settle the matter. Not waving but drowning.

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I'm with prodnose. Try "straight jacket" vs. "strait jacket" or "straight-laced" vs. "strait-laced" and you'll find that Mr. Google isn't a reliable speller.edit: typo (sheesh!)

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